057 – What part of “There ain’t no money.” do farmers not understand?

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More on the Farm Billno money for farm bill

This was a question posed to me by a farm bill lobbyist.

Who is going to help people with $13,000 an acre land?

Where is this all leading to and what do I think the farm bill “end game” is.

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  1. splined said:

    Congress needs to be prohibited from engaging in the selective agricultural investment and profit guaranteeing business. Their sorry record of targeting select farmers with highly discriminatory multimillion dollar investment/profit guaranteeing policies has destroyed countless rural communities by neutering the ability of smaller farmers to compete. To guarantee that the largest and obviously potentially most profitable business always will have a vastly superior incomes renders the smaller farmers incapable of competing in this highly competitive business. If congress is going to be involved in the safety net business all farmers are equally deserving of comparably valued safety nets.

    June 6, 2012
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    • Bill Graff said:

      I understand your frustration with the current farm programs, but how would you structure a farm program? Farm Programs are currently structured mainly on an acre basis. I worry that if the programs were based on a “person” basis, more “persons” would become farmers just to get the government check. The devil is and has always been in the details of farm programs. I also have an opinion on fair. Life is not fair, never has been never will be. If life was fair we would die in the order we were born for starters. Since that does not happen life is not fair from the beginning. I also am a strong believer in getting much of government “out of the way” of profitable farming operations, which would make life so much less complicated for many agricultural operations.

      June 14, 2012
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    • BillGraff said:

       @splined I appreciate your frustration with farm programs.  Farm Programs for years have mainly been based on a per acre basis.  How would you structure farm programs?  I have a fear that if the payments were based on a per “person” basis a lot of new “persons” would all the sudden start farming to just get the government check.  The devil has always been and always will be in the details of farm programs.  The “exception” to every rule is what drives the administration of these programs to do some weird things with the rules so as to try and not give an advantage to one over the other.  The problem is as soon as one writes new rules people will start and try to find ways to maximize “their” payments within the system the rules have created.  I call it farming the program.  I also describe it as “water will seek its own level”.  I appreciate your comments.

      June 14, 2012
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      • splined said:

         @BillGraff There is a whole lot of merit to the thought that all farmers should qualify for the same equal payment of $0.  Farmers are in the business of turning a profit so if their are government programs to be farmed, farmers will be farming them if it places dollars on their bottom line.

        June 17, 2012
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        • BillGraff said:

           @splined So if I understand your position right, if a “farmer farmed 1 acre that individual should get the same size payment as someone farming 1000 acres?

          June 17, 2012
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        • splined said:

           @BillGraff That would do a real nice job of leveling the playing field.  Depending on the amount of the payment the 1 acre payment could be capitalized into land prices.  We know a whole lot of those 1000 acre farm payments are capitalized into land price as well as 20,000 acre and 50,000 acre payments (crop insurance subsidy payments)    I would think those $500 annual per acre crop insurance subsidy payments in Florida would be capitalized into land prices too.

          June 19, 2012
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  2. I must say that while reading your post I found my thoughts in agreement with the topic that you have discussed

    January 8, 2013
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  3. immigration said:

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    January 14, 2013
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